Strength Renewed

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Jess, it heating up over there? Are we getting hot? We're getting hot and we're also getting bit by mosquitoes. Is it unusual for you to have So you had to jump onto this podcast with me that tonight all fired. I I always say that I'm the person in the room that no one... You don't have to worry if you about a mosquito because they'll just bite me. So everybody's safe. And the irony is that I went out.

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into my home gym, which is in our garage. And I leave the garage door open because it has. We have been getting some like 81, 82, just where everybody's feeling spring is sprung. You can start to feel that it's just a different... There's a change in season for sure. And it's hotter and those little bastards come out. And I mean, like I'm itching. We've now been like chit chatting and I'm like itching in places I was not itching before. like...

01:17
I am definitely allergic to mosquitoes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We'll start there. Yeah. And when we first came on, I realized I had just two and now I'm like, it's like as we're talking, I look a little pale but they just get me. So yes, the weather is beautiful and I have to spray myself. I had to probably take a bath in that disgusting smelling, you know, Insect spray.

01:43
Yes. And I know that all of our listeners are going to hopefully send me DMs or texts or emails or something, being like, Jess, I've got this great homeopathic thing to do, and I'll tell you, I'll do anything right now not to get bit. I wonder if oregano oil would help. We were talking, I was with some friends in the weekend, and one of them's a naturopath, and we were talking about just the amazingness of oregano oil.

02:09
I'll like Italian seasoning, I'm here for it. Yeah, totally. know, apparently 85 % of people secrete certain blood type markers through their skin and mosquitoes love type O. So I don't know if that's you or not, but maybe this is one of the reasons why you get that and others don't. Definitely. I mean, it's just really totally unattractive. I feel like I'm swelling up as were. It's good thing that you left me because I feel like I'm...

02:37
I can't even see. cannot even see. And do you know actually your skin microbiome? the bacteria on your skin influences your smell and that's something else that they are picky. They're picky. You just smell and taste extra delicious to them. Oh yay. Post exercise in the heat. Girlfriend, this is me. I am completely bit. And so I hope

03:07
that you all spray yourself if you happen to be oh and tasty like me, but good grief. mean, this is like, so basically tonight, like as we speak, I feel like it's the first warm night and it's also the first night that I've been attacked since last summer or spring. So I haven't had this many bites and tonight it was just, I was rewarded and here I am. So as usual, I'm very happy to be talking with you because it's kind of distracting me.

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where we are. wonder whether having that break, know, like, you know, the nine months or 10 months or whatever. I wonder if this makes you like just universal you more sensitive as well to. I do. I think it makes me more. It's a great question. And I think that it I think it does. And I also think that I just got a little cocky. You know what I mean? Like I think I probably didn't spray enough. and I just just like my husband, he's like, you need to spray before you like before you start the workout.

04:06
You know what mean? Like you can't just spray during when you feel something bite you, you have to like literally douse and then you can go off. so, so oregano oil is one thing. Good old fashioned disgusting off is another one. citronella eucalyptus. Citronella eucalyptus. Lavender. Oh, Yes. You need to get yourself down to your natural health store and pick up these like.

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natural things to just sort of have around you and on you and put some citronella candles or something out when you're working out. don't know. I think I'm going to do all the above. mean, this is actually, and I know that they've said it, but I think I was like, when we first sat down, I was fine. But it's true. think I'm, when you're a literature, you start getting like, as the time goes on, you're like, open, you're like, I'm feeling it here and here. But I've got, brought me this ice pack and I'll look a little bit.

05:04
I feel otherwise I feel just fine. It's really nice to have the weather and I'm glad that it's warm. And I'm always happy to see you. And I was thinking about the question that I was asked and often am asked, but I liked that I had a client of mine ask me this. She said, how do you answer the question when somebody says to you, I'm doing the best that I can?

05:32
I know. I thought that was a really interesting question. Yeah. And I did actually love what you said, Jess, like when you were sort of relaying to me, how you respond in that situation. Like, I feel like you're much more empathetic than I am. Actually, when you sort of walk through your process, I'm like, that's good. Cause I don't often go there as a first, as a first step. um. That's why we're a good team. I go there sometimes actually would love my head to be more like yours.

06:01
More like, all right, all right, I'd like straight and narrow. These are the things. I mean, because let's be clear. When people say they're trying their best, they're not seeing results. If we come at them with some alternative solutions, it doesn't mean that we doubt their effort, because the effort is never in question. Right. That's right. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. I ask, you know, what does your best look like? Yeah.

06:31
Because I'm not sure that people know what it is sometimes. think they get actually in the process to accomplish whatever goal that is for them. And you and I really are in the business of people saying this to us. This is not an uncommon thing in our fields. We get asked this question a lot. I think, and even to myself, what does it look like is probably my first place that I would ask. And then the second is, I still go back and we've

07:01
I think we now touch on it every single time we do a podcast. But I really think that you need to have a place for notes, whether it is a notepad and a pen, or in my case, you know, I've been tracking since we started, you know, planning some of our food together. I've been just trying to track in a spreadsheet what that looks like. I think you need to have visual visual representation sometimes of what you're actually doing. You know, she this one.

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friend and client of mine was like, a friend of a friend, you know, he's an alcoholic and I think he's having some trouble. And I was like, I wonder what it's like, can you look at that stuff? Can you look at like what you're actually doing? You know I mean? It's sort of like, you think you might've had one drink, but maybe you had seven. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe you have a little bit of protein and you had, you're supposed to get 150 grams and you had 40, you know, when you actually start looking at it. I don't how would you answer that?

08:00
Yeah. So if people are trying their best, my read of that situation is that they've likely been focusing on protein. They've cut out either crap or they've cut out snacks or they're trying their best. I sort of get them to explain a little bit further. But then do you go off the rails? Not off the rails. Do you just make choices that don't align with your goals?

08:29
Ultimately, I'm with you, Jess. First, if they are focusing on protein and think that they're eating what they should be eating, but not losing weight, because this is often what the conversation is centered around, then I absolutely get them to write it down or track. If they think they're doing everything right, they actually probably need to track and account for everything and weigh everything and put that effort in because they are either

08:59
they're likely under eating what they should be eating and they're over eating and they're over underestimating amounts of things like peanut butter and mayonnaise and cooking oil and those things which really ramp up the calories. So that's often what I see from someone who is already monitoring loosely what they're doing. They just need to tighten that up. Oh, that's good. I hadn't really thought about it like that. I like it where we're under eating

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more of what we should be overeating. 100 % that's correct. That's a really good way to put it because I again, I mean, I think people can learn a lot about what we I've now come to look at food in a much more empowering way. You know, not to kind of like fight it but go like, hey, Mayo. Yeah. So I just look around but it's, you know, and I have to be kind of cognizant of that. And sometimes I'll just

09:58
turn to mustard instead, because it still gives me flavor. But I do think a lot can be said about just using that as an example, because I know I could do a better job about myself. But equally though, if someone hasn't even been loosely tracking, sometimes they feel they're trying their best, but they may be trying to solve a problem that's not even there in the first place. Right, Yeah.

10:27
They're like, oh, I just need to up my protein. And so trying to eat a lot more protein, but actually that's not the problem. Like if I look at like, like, okay, just write down what you're doing first and foremost. So let's actually see where the problem might be because they think they know the problem. But actually if they look, if they start writing it down and I'm looking and I'm like, well, no, it's actually not the proteins, not the issue. The issue is that you're beginning to eat at like 1pm or

10:53
The issue is that you're having like three snacks and three meals and you're actually overeating. sometimes people think they know what the problem is because they're looking on social media and social media is telling them to eat more protein, but that's actually not their issue. Or it might be, but it's couched in a different way and just focusing on that isn't actually going to solve the problem that's right in front of them. That's really good Max. That's my job.

11:18
But that's really, but that's powerful thing. I think I almost take it. I always take the approach of like, you know, unpacking whatever old narrative you had around things. I think we both kind of do it. Similarly, you'll take the kind of goal of like, no, that's like, Mayo has this many calories in it and mustard does not. And I'm kind of like, what happened in your childhood?

11:43
I love that they need a bit of both, know, like they need that emotional sort of underpinning, but they also need to action steps. is what happened in their childhood. mean, literally if there was ever, ever, ever anything that, you know, besides this like pen and paper, you know, analogy of life, it is truly just take some small action steps and the small action steps really lead to the big ones. And then, you know, and why you're doing it, I...

12:12
I will assure you that your road to recovery will also include a lot less shoulds. You'll stop shoulding yourself as much as you do. I have been saying it, I still say it, but I say it a lot less because I find people whenever they come in and they're just very like, you know, so worked up about what, you know, they're doing their best and the best is not working. I just remind, I'm just wondering how many shoulds did you say? How many things, how are you looking?

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thinking about it differently. So I do believe you're doing your best, but what action steps are you actually doing with great regularity? Regularity is really important. The steps that we take regularly are what we're going to do and not to to complicate it as much as we want to. Yeah, yeah. Hundred percent. Hundred percent. But I like the idea of under, you know, we under eat the things that sometimes we should be over eating. I know that like,

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I sometimes put the brakes on having I've already had a smoothie for breakfast. Why would I have another one for a snack or later? But in reality, it's a fantastic snack. And if I'm hungry and I don't know the timing of what I'm eating or what I'm doing, it's like that's like a perfect way to, you know, throw in, you know, some extra protein and just fuel without feeling like I overdid it or something like that. Right. 100%. 100%. There's that sort of deal. What do you chat GPT?

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I was looking at, I was going back to mosquito. Homeopathic mosquito remedies. Or only McBeal hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I still can't leave that one alone. No, the mosquito thing, which is just what did you find any other mosquito remedies besides oregano No, damn it. really wanted to, but I do think- Lavender.

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I do think having a bath, Jess, I you're just watching me take this ice pack all over me. The ice pack helps a little bit because it just takes the swelling down. It is nuts. I mean, I don't know anybody who has quite, except for your friend, I guess, who swells like, you know what? A shower. I'm going to a cold shower. Yeah, I think so. That's going to happen next and maybe just get some of whatever the stupid mosquitoes have left on me. But I thought while I'm erupting and having allergic responses to mosquitoes, I would think about.

14:34
what is powerful about that question and I think doing our best, but our best has to have a game plan. And I think every day, if you don't wake up, and I know it's a lot of game plans because for a lot of our listeners, they're already stacked up, right? They're busy with work, they're busy with their families, they're busy with whatever athletic endeavors they're doing. so they having a game plan for just one more thing, but I'm telling you, it can just be like a small game plan. You and I were talking about this, like,

15:03
earlier. It's just you feel it's amazing how much more empowering you feel and then your best really does start to feel like your actual best because you're doing something. You're doing anything toward achieving whatever even if it's a very long, long, long game plan. Don't you think it feels it feels it does kind of feel like I don't I'm not sure if I'm moving forward.

15:30
I totally agree. And you can feel a little bit overwhelmed and floundering if you don't have some sort of direction, right? Even if to your point, it's just one or two things you're focusing on because it's really easy to get overwhelmed by the, you know, the big task of whatever it is that you're trying to improve. if the very small thing that you can do is write down what you're eating, I'd say do base.

15:54
Continue to make this your takeaway. It wasn't all about tracking your proteinics. However, it does kind of come back to tracking your protein. Because I think if you all want to build your muscle, it's just the best reminder in the whole wide world. If your goal is to build muscle, then you must take two to three action steps every day toward that goal, right? So I think the majority of our listeners want to build muscle.

16:21
So use this, what two to three things. If you want to become better at data analysis for whatever part of your job is, you're going to do two or three things that are going to allow you to become better at that. If I'd like to be a little bit of a better cook, I am going to at least practice one recipe or one thing toward that. But if I want to build muscle, I know for sure I need to move some weight in my gym. And I know that I need to be.

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mindful and it's too hard to memorize it. So write stuff down, write it down, write your notes, write the things that you're thinking about doing and put it, put your pen to paper or write it into your self spreadsheet. And when you, when you do ask that question, you know, I would encourage you to say, well, what is your best looking like these days? You know, what is that to you? Nice one. Yeah. And I, and my other question, last one to follow up on that is how often do your clients, Mickey,

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tell you that I am doing my best and I feel like it's not enough? Do you get that question more or do you get like, yeah, I'm working really hard and it's showing? Or none of the above? I think it depends on who I'm talking to. If it's someone who is just a new person to me, I would say it is more the latter, no, I'm sorry, the former. I think if it's someone who I've been working with consistently,

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I cannot tell, and you'll know this, I cannot tell you the number of people are like, oh, if only I knew protein had this effect, you know, like it's just this, it's almost like laughable how often I hear that now because people have sort of discovered it. So it really depends on the person. Yeah. Yeah. I think so too. Yeah. But I do know that it does make me pause and think about what I want to put into place every day. And just, I just want to have a couple of things that I know that will help me.

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at least move forward. Goals will not be met in a single day, but they will be met over time. So I know that the things that I'm doing every day and you all too, will help you answer that question and seven new ways that you too can come summertime, get a little bit less affected by mosquito bites on today's podcast. Just to recap, that's what I do really well too. I talk about your childhood trauma and I do have mighty fine job of recapping, but

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But cheers to that great question and thanks for the rosemary and oregano. I will be smelling like Italian dinner very soon here. Nice one, Des. What are you grateful for today? I'm grateful that you've got your ice block with you. Thank you. And I bet you're grateful for that too.

19:07
I just it's been a massive, just a bit of a distraction for you. I'm trying to focus on this and I'm like rubbing this all over my body. No, no, I do actually feel, I feel how helpful that's been. So it's been wonderful. I appreciate that. I am grateful for us for this. This is again a great source of joy. And I am very appreciative that we have this podcast and I'm very appreciative that we can bring little nuggets to people because I do think

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A lot can be said in 20 minutes as it would turn out. I do feel like you can, I always, I pity the longer podcasts because I'm like, why do we need all that time? I feel like Mickey and I can get to business. give you everything we need and entertain you in the process in 20 minutes. So that's the balance of us. But cheers to you. I'm you're to get ready for a long run and I'll be here icing.

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See you soon!