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Mikki (00:00.31)
and my hair is really frizzy. Anyway.

Jessica (00:02.186)
I'm feeling that. You know how the other day when you told me I was a little bit flat? I feel that way about you right now. Not like flat, but like, I feel like maybe like, I'm sure she's had enough protein. I'm guaranteed her micronutrients are on point, but perhaps she needs a little bit. I don't know. One of those like delicious ice little moments we had when we were in LA together. don't Right? That was a good hit, man. I could fucking go for that right now. That was so good. Okay. Should I, we should talk about these stories together right now. Yeah.

Mikki (00:05.772)
Mmm, that's how. I know.

Mikki (00:14.205)
You

Mikki (00:21.102)
I feel like I do need a little, I do need a little pick me up. I know, I know. Yeah. Yeah, I love it because, first of all, I have to say how wonderful the feedback was on the podcast that we got. It was just so amazing and people were just so supportive as I knew they would be, Jess, but I just, was such a perfect idea of yours to sort of do that sort of launch and we will.

Jessica (00:31.948)
Okay.

Hmm.

Mikki (00:50.606)
announce the winners in the next week as well. we're absolutely getting onto that, but both you and I have to find the space to get together to do the random draw and all the rest of it. So we will totally do that. How fabulous, isn't it?

Jessica (00:54.091)
Totally, totally.

Jessica (01:04.297)
It is, and it's particularly in the same way that you love this as my glow up, we'll call it. I see it sort of that way for you too. You know what I mean? You've been Mickey mastermind, Mickey doing Mondays Matter and all of your Micopedia. It's like, this is definitely the avatar of you. You know what I mean? But this brings a kind of a like.

Mikki (01:09.454)
mmm this

Mikki (01:18.273)
You

Mikki (01:25.24)
Mm-hmm. Mm.

Jessica (01:30.199)
softer, more open side, know, Mickey in like sweater and fucking jeans and makeup and a little wave in her hair. And like, hey, this is awesome. I, you know, Jewish friend who says fuck a lot and we love each other. And here's our opportunity to discuss some shit with you that we want to be able to share with you that you clearly have questions on and here's your opportunity to basically like ask everything. It's really an incredible forum for people. And so I, and I saw that with everybody that was just like,

Mikki (01:36.662)
Hahaha

Mikki (01:50.904)
Totally.

Jessica (01:57.249)
giving you all the love and it couldn't have made me happier because I love you and I'm so glad that I could see that and witness that. I could bear witness to that. Nice.

Mikki (02:03.95)
I love that so much. especially that part where, you know, we were talking, you know, we just will talk, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about the stuff, the things that people want to hear about. And the thing is, Jess, is that what we talk about, people probably would, particularly for this episode maybe, because we'll provide the action tips and stuff that people are after. And they are subjects that come up time and again, but it is really nice to have it in one spot. So

particularly for our audience, which will largely be us in some way, shape or form, right?

Jessica (02:40.161)
Yeah.

100%. This is why this is like so meaningful. It's like literally a download that you want to share with the world. You know, like you're like, listen, listen, it benefits you, you know, like, and I'm digging on the fact that we stand alone too. Like we're definitely able to, there's a uniqueness about the format because I just, think it's a little shorter, right? It's a little bit more direct. It's still like,

Mikki (02:50.602)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mikki (03:08.935)
Mm. Mm-hmm.

Jessica (03:12.11)
This was cute today. is honestly, hope this, we should just start the podcast cause this part is really cute. I'll say it again when we're back on, but he, a great, wonderful, oh, lovely. So we didn't say, so this is, okay. This is so like, we, this is, this is me just still being like new to this whole thing, but like you, I didn't need to like, oh, hey, hi. There's no, no, no introduction pieces to this, right? We're good. Who cares? Fuck. We're fine. But anyways,

Mikki (03:21.9)
No, we are on. We are on. Yeah.

Mikki (03:37.196)
Be good.

Jessica (03:42.382)
He my client was so cute today. She was like, we've been putting your podcast on the last few days. She has a nine year old son and my nine year old son loves it. and I said, what does he love? I said, he does. He loves talking about like protein water and you know, hormones and you know, whatever it is, grief, uh, friendships. And he says, she, she was like, no, he likes

Mikki (03:53.776)
Mikki (04:01.71)
Ha

Mikki (04:05.294)
you

Jessica (04:11.151)
All of it. He likes everything that you're talking, but he says he loves your laugh. He's like, you laugh a ton when you're, when you and Mickey, like your laugh's kind of infectious. And I was laughing. I'm like, cause I do like literally when I'm with Mickey, like we just, we laugh. probably appreciate this podcast as much that I'm laughing, but we do it. Cause it just, I, there's like a release. I'm like cracking up about something. I'm like, oh, great.

Mikki (04:13.454)
Mikki (04:38.094)
And actually, and your friend is so right, you do have this really spontaneous, like, it almost like comes from nowhere type laugh. And it's like, which is fantastic. that's so great.

Jessica (04:41.231)
Isn't that cute?

Jessica (04:48.463)
I thought it was so cute. So that was another thing that made my day. so I feel clearly one of the most passionate and ever, ever present topics of our life as the 40 old woman is the need to have some navigation, some

Mikki (05:09.453)
Mm.

Jessica (05:10.709)
like light, some illumination. I think of it like you're out in the water and like those like lighthouses where they're spinning the light around in the water just to give you a little idea. Otherwise it's dark and glassy and you have no idea where we're going. And so to me, and also to Nomi is that I love clearly, you this about me to speak in metaphors, because sometimes it's just easier to explain a complex topic, right? So I feel like women are constantly

Mikki (05:23.361)
Yeah.

Mikki (05:32.833)
Yeah. Yeah.

Jessica (05:39.568)
looking for some illumination in there. Number one, this is a conversation around hormones that we, that 10 years ago, no one talked about. There was not any, just even though it was like nothing ago, right? And now I think in the last few years, it's like all anybody can talk about. So then when anybody can talk about it, somehow you also feel like you should be doing something, right? It's very sheep-like, like, oh, if everybody's talking about it, right? Like I need to be doing something about it. Whether I have perimenopausal symptoms or not, I may or may not.

Mikki (06:09.464)
Yeah.

Jessica (06:09.476)
There's 92 symptoms, so I probably have at least a few, right? But I want like some kind of guide to know that I'm like on the right track. We all feel better when we've taken a multivitamin in the morning or we've, you know, had an extra glass of water or whatever, whatever, right? So I kind of feel like we're looking for that right now. And I'll tell you a story about how that came to be, but were you going to say something about my lighthouse metaphor?

Mikki (06:13.056)
Yeah, totally.

Mm-hmm.

Mikki (06:30.145)
Yeah.

Mikki (06:37.192)
No, no I was but I was going to say that it's that whole no no it's the it's that if you feel like your nothing is wrong and you don't need to work on anything then that's almost it's too unusual you know like it's it's actually really you know you don't want to be the one sort of on the not on the outer but standing out from everyone else because everyone's got these issues so you're right of course I'm going to have these issues.

Jessica (06:40.461)
Are you my boat?

Mikki (07:07.148)
And sometimes we go looking for issues.

Jessica (07:07.279)
Right.

Jessica (07:11.361)
I guess, I think it's more of that. I think it's less that people don't believe that they have anything, but how far we wanna go looking for them is the other kind of thing. I think people should listen to their bodies before they listen to the noise of social media or the noise of just media in general. I think that there is also, I ran into a woman today when I was grabbing my kiddo and

Mikki (07:20.526)
Mmm.

Jessica (07:41.253)
We chatted for a while. didn't know her, but randomly we got talking as one does about health and about hormones, because why not? Why are you waiting for your kid to finish their class? she, right? I mean, why not? So, but she said to me, it just, it's so interesting that, you know, here we are in the U.S. and you go to your appointment and you see your OB and there's like, I mean, obviously there's going to be some.

Mikki (07:52.078)
And you're over 40.

Jessica (08:09.957)
but it is very difficult to find the doctors that are kind of like very specifically focused on, we'll call it more integrative medicine or, you know, more hormone balancing or just essentially helping you through perimenopausal symptoms, whatever those may be. So that's difficult. And then the other thing is she's was sharing that she's also part of a larger collective of women who are like, you know, really just

Mikki (08:18.528)
Yeah.

Mikki (08:25.782)
Mm-hmm.

Jessica (08:39.064)
ready to basically like hold on to anybody who's willing to say, Hey, Jess, you know, let me, let me show you what to look for. Like a guide. We all need some kind of guide. Otherwise everything feels too vast. mean, you've, you've, know, there's so many times I open the refrigerator and all I hear is Mickey's, you know, words in my head, like, okay, just, you know, sit down for six or seven minutes, let your cortisol levels drop, reach for, you know,

protein, get in your greens. You know, like I hear a voice, like you're part of my guide. So I would love, you know, to talk about, she's not alone. I feel the same way she feels. It's such a huge kind of world that feels confusing when we're trying to figure out what hormones are we supposed to like, you know, be looking at? What blood work are we supposed to be, you know, paying attention to? What additional things besides?

hormone replacement therapy could we be doing to help ourselves through a very long phase called pyramid pos.

Mikki (09:44.842)
And I will say, it's a bit of, like, we go into the doctors thinking about our hormones and thinking, I need to test my hormones. But actually, it's not really worthwhile testing your hormones, actually, because if you are in perimenopause, your estrogen is gonna be all over the place. I mean, your progesterone is, you know, if you know, if you track your cycle and your four to five days post-op, absolutely, you can test progesterone to see whether it's an appropriate level.

Jessica (09:53.542)
Mm-hmm.

Jessica (10:04.357)
Mmm.

Mikki (10:15.31)
The things that people experience could well be hormone related, it could just be lifestyle related. There is a bit of pushback, I see it a little bit, in that too much, because of the explosion in the Menobeli and the menopause specific doctors and the menopause specific coaches and things like that, it's almost like we jump over, what is that term? We jump over dollars to pick up pennies.

Jessica (10:22.31)
Mm-hmm.

Mikki (10:43.958)
you know, like we're not actually focusing on the big pillars. We're actually sort of going down rabbit holes, looking at these sort of smaller things, which may or may not be the problem. And so I absolutely think it's worth thinking about hormones and thinking about what you could do about them, be it HRT, be it happy mammoth or whatever those other hormones or the supplements are, you'll have similar ones, probably Jess over there, but there's no point.

Jessica (10:44.53)
Hmm.

Mikki (11:13.73)
doing that stuff if you're not committing to making changes to lifestyle, if you haven't already. And of course, if you do all the things that are in the Hormone-Related Guide that will be attached to our podcast, if you're doing all of that stuff and you're still having issues, by all means, like, absolutely, you need to explore potentially other avenues, but most people haven't really considered some of the really big stuff, which I think is really important.

Jessica (11:18.162)
Mm-hmm.

Jessica (11:41.842)
I feel like, again, like, I always like when I go, boom, my mind's like, yes, right? Like that, I completely, I love that, because even just knowing that makes me a little bit less stressed. And I think what you were trying to get at is that people aren't looking at the root of the problem a little bit. You know what I mean? They're kind of looking at all the things around that. And sometimes I just think that that's easier for people. You know, they're like, great, you tell me,

Mikki (11:46.85)
you

Mikki (12:01.069)
Mm. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Mikki (12:08.046)
100 %

Jessica (12:11.336)
what I'm gonna go right onto HRT or I'm gonna do this and then, you know, like, and again, I'm not, have never, please by all means, I'm glad that people are on these and for some people, you know, they do, it's a game changer, but I guarantee the ones that are feeling game changed by that are, also like committed to understanding the root of the issue as well, the root of like why they're feeling a certain way. And they've also made significant.

Mikki (12:20.81)
No judgment.

Jessica (12:40.141)
know, commitments to their lifestyle. So that when you bring that on board, it's just kind of the like, you know, kind of adds to the rebalancing of how they're feeling and the reduction of some of the symptoms that basically are interfering with the quality of their life. And I, that's what I honestly, for all of you listening, like I hear it all day long in my practice. mean, I would say this is the

hottest topic on the freaking earth. Like I all this is what I hear all day long to the point is what we're sharing. I'm to share with you guys, which we're excited about is there will be a link. There will be a free downloadable link at the end of this that you should all download so that you have a, you you can describe it a bit more, but like it'll be a hormone basically like PDF. So, so you can have a little bit of a blueprint to guide you and just to sort of

Mikki (13:09.902)
Mmm.

Mikki (13:23.586)
Yeah.

Mikki (13:34.475)
Yes.

Jessica (13:37.279)
Cross-check, because cross-checking with what your friends are experiencing is really doing a disservice to yourself. Like I always say, you told me this, you know, weeks ago, you said, look, Jess, you should just get a notebook, because like I believe in old school and a pen, and you should write, write what you ate down today and write, like, just so you can see it. Look at it, you know, feel it, experience it, acknowledge it. There's no judgment. There's no shame.

Mikki (14:00.514)
Yeah.

Jessica (14:06.74)
I'm the first person to tell you that I had a fair life in a bar, you know what I mean? And I missed all my micronutrients that day, but I did get my protein count in, but I missed everything else. I'm not shaming myself, or I'm better understanding myself for it. So if I'm feeling a little bit disconnected or I'm feeling a little gut issues, can clearly see the reason. So try to stay your own lane on this one. And we understand that your hormones change, you know, to some degree when you were in

Mikki (14:10.326)
Yeah.

Jessica (14:35.497)
your 40s and I think it's an important time to acknowledge that there are ways to help mitigate, you know, some of the symptoms that you're experiencing. I just think it's a little predatory. What are all we're hearing is metal belly all day long. Fuck, you know what I mean? Like you're going to begin to believe you have.

Mikki (14:53.782)
And I 100 % agree. And I think the other thing with this is that I'm not necessarily saying it's not your hormones. It could well be your hormones. However, even dialing in this stuff that is in the PDF will just make that transition so much easier and can mitigate a lot of the symptoms that are associated with the hormone challenges. But also, if you go to your doc and you're like, just measure my hormones, and they're like, sure, I'll measure your hormones because they don't even understand what they're doing, then.

Jessica (15:01.725)
Of course you're not saying that. Yeah.

Jessica (15:21.962)
They don't, that's the biggest thing. In fact, I'd be curious to know, when you're saying go measure my hormones and they're like, sure, what are they doing? Like, yeah, just think, what are they doing actually?

Mikki (15:28.734)
so yeah. Well, hopefully they're asking whether or not you track your cycle and whether you know if you've ovulated or not. And then they're telling you, they're writing a script and they're telling you to go and your hormones four to five days post-ovulation. But not all doctors do that. And they might just measure just off the bat and they'll be measuring a metabolite of estrogen called estradiol. That's the one that's most prevalent. And that's in our bloodstream. They'll be measuring progesterone as well.

they'll be measuring FS8 follicle stimulating hormone and they'll be measuring luteinizing hormone. They might be measuring testosterone, they might not. And then they'll make...

Mikki (16:16.332)
an assessment on whether or not it's your hormones playing into some of what you're experiencing or not. So that's basically what they're doing. And the thing is, that...

Jessica (16:30.016)
So just so just an offside of curiosity, you say it could be your hormones planted into it or not and the or not then would be lifestyle.

Mikki (16:37.964)
Well, no, not just lifestyle. So yes, lifestyle, but it could be your vitamin D level is low. You could have thyroid related issues. Your B12 might be low. A super common one is iron, like your iron status. And it's not enough just to look at the normative ranges and know that you fall within normal range because normal range is often inclusive of people who are too low and are symptomatic. this is the thing. And not all doctors understand that. And this is not a dig at doctors.

when I'm thinking about family physicians or I'm thinking about general practitioners, they've got like eight minutes or whatever with a person. So this is the reason why it costs, where people have to pay out of pocket to go to functional doctors who really study this and spend a lot more time with people, which is amazing, but they're not as available. So it could be things that are related to nutrient markers and not necessarily related just to your hormones, or your hormones could be tanking because you're low in these nutrient markers because

they help support the production of the hormones. And then of course, the downstream effect of this is lifestyle stuff, but it's not like you're having a shitty lifestyle, it's your fault. It's just like, hey, did you know that these are the things that really make a difference? And even by tweaking a few of these things, you could just really help support your health.

Jessica (18:00.099)
That is all we have, and that will be our mission statement until I take like, know, like every day that I breathe, that's my permanent mission statement is like, taking just a small step to better your health, but really better your understanding of your health. Cause it's complicated, right? Like it's complicated and you have a lot of noise in your head. I would love to think that some of us, some of the time, most of what Mickey and I are trying to do,

Mikki (18:05.614)
Mm-hmm.

Mikki (18:17.634)
better your understanding. Yeah. Yeah.

Jessica (18:28.394)
is just quiet, some of the outside noise, have it little, be a little bit more calmer in your brain and actually really to tell you that you're doing the right thing. You know, you're like, you're trying to understand something that quite honestly, your normal OB, your general practitioner, and even to some degree, your functional medicine doctor, they're still trying to figure out and understand it. So you're not really supposed to get all this. We just want to give you a little bit of a guideline to understand what

Mikki (18:30.702)
Mmm.

Mikki (18:37.334)
Yeah.

Mikki (18:49.965)
I

Jessica (18:59.039)
you might need if you are moving forward to kind of better understand, you know, areas of your health like hormones. And then to also just understand that you also can be looking at other things. The bigger picture too is where you might be deficient on nutrients because I think you've had plenty of people in your practice that once you've kind of adjusted their nutrients properly, they probably feel a lot better. I would imagine that some of those perimenopausal symptoms

Mikki (19:23.886)
Yeah

Jessica (19:28.586)
maybe even went down a bit, subsided a bit, once they had a more proper nutritional intake.

Mikki (19:35.054)
100 % and sometimes it's the matter of sort of eliminating some things as well. Like yes, there's always going to be an individual approach, but there are these pillars which are put together in the PDF that are a really good starting point and super interesting, Jess. I've got one woman just coming into my program. is a menopause doctor and she's joining the program because she's got a few kilos that she would like to release. But she also wants to understand more the education.

Jessica (19:54.873)
Mmm.

Mikki (20:03.604)
that and an eating approach that works for women of our age group and I just love that because she's she's not pretending that she knows it all or thinks she knows it all she's getting advice from other professionals who who work alongside and that's that's what I think is that's super it's great actually

Jessica (20:21.274)
I think it's great because it's just like a practical approach. I mean, shoot me the day that I feel like I know everything. You know what mean? When I stop being curious, we have a problem. You all have a problem. But really, really fast, just in like a very short nutshell, what can people expect when they're downloading this PDF? So like you said, it's comprised of how many pillars? it four?

Mikki (20:23.605)
Yeah.

I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Mikki (20:44.078)
So we've got, it's a very good question, we've got different sections. It's a two-pager, so it's not that long. So you don't have to spend hours reading it. I know you do. And I understand who's got time. So this has got the diet principles, like what to focus on in terms of.

Jessica (20:52.737)
You know how I feel about long things.

Mikki (21:02.318)
the micro macronutrients. I've been specific around numbers, given ranges. I've got biomarkers, so what you should test for. If you're going to your doctor for blood tests, why don't you get these things measured? We've got training guidelines, which obviously, if you're really familiar with GSAT, listeners will be as well. Sleep guidelines as well, even really just to remind people that it's super important. And then I've got...

Jessica (21:04.505)
Mm-hmm.

Jessica (21:24.985)
Hmm.

Mikki (21:30.658)
some supplements down there, not just for sleep, but also for inflammation, for the menstrual cycle health, and also for mood and potentially anxiety. And then just some really common lifestyle things to think about. So timing of meals, thinking about caffeine, thinking about alcohol, think of mindfulness and stuff like that. So it's all the good stuff, really.

Jessica (21:55.795)
That's perfect. My kids are wrestling in the background. I always love the real life moments of our podcast. But I think it's, I hope that everybody will feel kind of collective exhale because now you have, well, you always have Mickey and I forever, but you also have access to, you know, what I think is pretty darn fantastic because you know how I feel about you and what you put together and how your brain works. like,

Mikki (21:59.852)
Hahaha.

Mikki (22:09.102)
Mmm.

Mikki (22:13.227)
obviously.

Jessica (22:24.858)
your approach is so fantastic because it's like, you know, it kind of comprises like just things that you can feel empowered by right now. You know what mean? Like I love that you're like, great, did you take me magnesium for dinner? Like, did you take your have a spoonful of vinegar? Like, it's literally stuff that I like feel better doing and they're like not hard to implement. And I could do them right now and I feel better about doing that. although I may not be 100 % certain.

Mikki (22:34.233)
yeah, 100%.

Mikki (22:47.422)
No. Yeah.

Jessica (22:52.528)
what the hell is going on with my hormones, none of us are. At least we can have a little bit of elimination, a little bit of guide there. And then we can also be looking at other biomarkers and other nutrients and some other ideas around our sleep. Just some re-examination, right? Make you like a little bit of like, I think at every point in the day even, just like pause. Like just kind of, I always say I try to look at my life.

Mikki (23:07.627)
Yeah.

Mikki (23:15.692)
Yeah.

Jessica (23:20.142)
as though I'm like a spectator sometimes, like I'm just looking at it, because it's a better way to understand it versus just being in it, it's hard to see it. So I'm glad that we can have these conversations and also glad that we know, comforted to know what we know and know what we don't know, right? But now you have something that you can download. We're constantly learning, we'll learn again and we'll keep bringing you.

Mikki (23:21.678)
Mm.

Mikki (23:27.438)
100%.

Mikki (23:40.91)
Yeah, 100 % and always learning.

Jessica (23:47.736)
all the information because what I do know about Mickey and I is that we love beer, Epsom salt bath, chocolate, James Taylor, gardenias, but we really love to geek out on learning. So both Mickey and I like can't get enough in our brains, but I think we're good about making it bite size enough for you. So we'll make sure that the link is on our PDF and or downloadable for you.

Mikki (23:59.274)
Yeah, I love it. Yeah.

Jessica (24:13.921)
And one really important practice that I live by, I you know this, but I'm gonna start, tonight will be the night, but I feel like it would only be appropriate for us to end our podcast with my guiding light principle, which is gratitude. So I'm gonna ask you today, Mickey, what are you grateful for?

Mikki (24:28.054)
Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mikki (24:42.84)
Today I'm really grateful to have people around that can help in tricky situations. Like just, and I won't go into any more details than that other than, you know, just with the business stuff and the launch of things, are just challenges that occur. And I know that I have people who have my back. So I'm super grateful for those people. How about you Jess, what are you grateful for?

Jessica (24:49.148)
Hmm.

Jessica (25:05.372)
Yeah, grateful for the back end of the front end and all the parts that make our businesses run. But feeling supported is really important. I am so very grateful to be launching Strength Renewed. And I'm really grateful to feel so inspired by the humans around us that just sort of give me purpose and life and

Mikki (25:12.618)
Yeah. Yeah.

Mikki (25:33.186)
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Jessica (25:33.36)
opportunity to help so many humans and something that is so near and dear to exactly what we're all kind of going through. And so the idea that I can be of service to as many people as we can. And you, I think it's really important to find people in your life that, you know, that you really feel seen by, that you feel invigorated to be with them, you know, that there really has never been a moment that we've ever jumped on a call or anything together where I haven't.

Mikki (25:43.863)
Amazing.

Jessica (26:02.501)
I haven't felt more recharged after being with you, even if we are like that, entering into it because we're tired and all the things. I know that I will get a surge from your presence. And so that's a big gratitude prayer tonight, but that is what I'm grateful for.

Mikki (26:12.558)
you

Amazing.

Mikki (26:22.486)
I love it. And I do love that that's your guiding light. It really has altered because I've heard it from you so much now. just it alters how I view things and how I, and I really love it. I'm all for gratitude, but it's not a daily practice, you know? But I feel like there's, I remember.

Jessica (26:30.191)
No.

Jessica (26:40.349)
Mm-hmm.

Mikki (26:43.66)
I heard on a podcast this week, they're saying that, you know, in the face of fear and anxiety, gratitude is like the antidote to that. And I'm like, that is so true. And I immediately thought of you and how you ask about, you know, what are you grateful for? So I love that, Jess. Thank you. Amazing.

Jessica (27:00.743)
I love that too. It is truly an anchor weight to change your energy field. And I'm also happy to be getting my five in, my five pull ups. I'm on the Mickey pull up chain. So that's great. Yeah, so some days you can't maybe get it all in, but the idea that I'm aiming for five every day is pretty great. Are you feeling it in there? Yeah, good.

Mikki (27:05.761)
Yeah.

Mikki (27:14.106)
Amazing! That is so good, I'm so pleased. My shoulder's a little bit sore actually. Like, and... I totally agree.

And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, oh my God, is this some sort of like frozen shoulder thing that I But just no, there's no, that's me projecting all those perimenopausal symptoms on myself. It is not frozen shoulder. It is a bad move in the gym for another move and I need to get that adjusted. And I'm doing that next week. Yeah. All righty Jess, you have a great night. See ya.

Jessica (27:44.574)
Well, good job.

Jessica (27:50.45)
You too. Bye next.